eBay Pulls Kevorkian Bus From Auction; Kruse Steps In

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Yesterday we told you about the eBay auction of Jack "Dr. Death" Kevorkian's 1968 VW Bus.

Never mind.

eBay has pulled the auction saying it "does not allow the sale of items closely associated with notorious murderers within the last 100 years."

Kruse Auctions has no such policy, apparently...The Dub of Death will cross the block next month.

Details from The Detroit News.

Post Title → eBay Pulls Kevorkian Bus From Auction; Kruse Steps In

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eBay Auctioning Purported Kevorkian Bus

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How's this for a used car sales pitch: " Only driven by a little old man on his way to kill people".

Yep...just in time to cash in on the HBO movie "You Don't Know Jack" starring Al Pacino, a 1968 VW Bus purported to be the one owned by Dr. Jack Kevorkian, who assisted in more than 100 suicides before being sent to prison for 8 years, is up for bid on eBay.

From the auction description:

The vehicle drove in under it's own power but the engine had a rod knock. The vehicle most likely is not roadworthy and if anyone were to try to use this as a vehicle used on the road, it would have to be brought up to current standards. We are telling you that this bus is absolutely not safe to drive. All safety systems on the vehicle would have to be completely overhauled. Although the vehicle may actually move and stop under its own power, it's not being sold as a drivable bus.

Vehicle is in substantially "as used" condition with the exception that it does not have the original steering wheel. VIN numbers etc. etc. match the title. All paperwork is proper and signed with Jack's signature.

Want in? The auction ends Thursday (4/29) at 12:01:02 PDT. Go here.

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Hitman Challenger UPDATE: The Real Deal Revealed (updated 5:50 PM)

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The mystery (well, at least part of it) of "Hitman" and the $29,100 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 auction is over.

Brad Davis at Glenn E. Thomas Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep confirms that the dealership did honor the $29,100 auction as Hitman said...but for a different car of arguably higher value. 

Jonny Lieberman at Autoblog got it right...Hitman (real first name Alex) went home in a new 2010 Challenger SRT-8 instead of the 2009 with 500 miles on the odometer.  Davis tells me the '09 was sold to another client last week while the auction was in dispute.

Hitman was offered his pick of three 2010 Challenger SRT-8s and chose a black one. The '09 was blue.

Hitman also gets $2,000 worth of Mopar accessories of his choosing.

All this leaves his cheering section at the ChallengerTalk Forums wondering why "Hitman"s been so uncommunicative since taking delivery of the car on Saturday. If anything, he won bigger. A poster who says he talked to "Hitman" says he's under legal constraints about what he can discuss...but if so, why was Brad Davis so willing to divulge details?

Dunno. Tirekicker only pawn in game of life.



If you want more, there's still a fair amount of head-scratching going on at the ChallengerTalk forums, where the auction thread, started by "Hitman" on March 13, just had its 400,000th page view today. Pick it up from where we broke the story this afternoon here.

Post Title → Hitman Challenger UPDATE: The Real Deal Revealed (updated 5:50 PM)

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Challenger SRT-8 Auction Watch: The Hitman Cometh, Leaveth Questions

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Yesterday, we told you about the strange online silence of  "Hitman", the purported winner of a $29,100 eBay auction for a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8.

Well, last night at 9:47PM PDT, "Hitman" surfaced on the forum, acknowledging, but not answering any of the questions:

A lot of questions and rumors definitely coming to light after this whole experience from different sources that are making claims. Many requests to post pictures and give an explanation of how it went down in the end.


Plan of posting pics and all that good stuff after I work on getting a couple of coats of wax and the right shine. It's only been a few days of driving it around and trying to do the proper break period as it has been suggested.


Been on the board every night reading everyone's posts in this thread and jumping around the ChallengerTalk.com board, learning more about the SRT8 and looking at what the proud owners have done to personalize theirs. This board has a lot to offer and maybe I will learn a few things along the way as well.

The ChallengerTalk forum members who rallied around "Hitman" when it appeared Glenn E. Thomas Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep of Signal Hill, California was going to refuse to give him the car (at first claiming a glitch erased their $42,000+ reserve...which eBay said didn't and couldn't happen) also cheered at "Hitman"'s posting early Sunday morning that "the dealership honored the $29.1K auction", along with this photo:

But now, as we reported, a lot of them are beginning to doubt the whole story...whether "Hitman" got the car in the auction....whether he got it for $29,100....whether he got a different car (fueled by a Jonny Lieberman piece on Autoblog which reported that the delership "did better than the right thing, selling Alex a 2010 Challenger SRT8 rather than the 250-mile car he won in the auction"---Jonny got the mileage wrong, it had 500)....whether he got any car, or whether "Hitman" is in fact the person who won that auction (eBay generates anonymous bidder IDs). 

And there are questions raised by the eBay bidding record for the auction, which shows the winning bid was $9,000 higher than the leading bid at the time...several hours before the end of the auction.

Does "Hitman's" post last night make ChallengerTalk members happy now? Not a chance. Just one response:

Sorry, I am really on the edge of calling BS here. (And I know I am an outsider, but still...)

You can take the time to post this dribble, but can not take the time to tell us what went down and what exactly you ended up buying? Also, a brand new car does not need to be waxed to shine.
Forget the pics, just tell the story.


Follow along, beginning with "Hitman's" post last night, here.

By the way, we checked...the SRT-8 in the auction is not in the dealership's online inventory as of this morning.

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Where's 'Hitman" And His Car? (Updated 12:36 PM MST)

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The ChallengerTalk Forums have been on a rollercoaster ride the past week: Outrage over a member named "Hitman" being denied the keys to a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 after a $29,100 winning bid on eBay was disputed by Southern California dealer Glenn E. Thomas Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep....support for "Hitman" when it was announced that he and the dealer were going to sit down face to face last Friday after eBay announced there was no technical glitch, as the dealer had claimed.....and celebration when, just after 7:00 AM PST Sunday morning, "Hitman" posted the news that the dealership "honored the $29.1K auction", along with a photo that showed a key with a Glenn E. Thomas fob atop a Challenger brochure and a handwritten note reading "YES!"

One more post, three hours later...saying he was going to take it easy, read the owner's manual...and since then...silence. At least from "Hitman".  No more posts, no more photos.

From members of the forums? Well, a growing number of posters are questioning whether things are as they seem.  They don't really know "Hitman" (he'd only made two posts on the forum prior to starting the thread about his having won the auction on March 13).

An examination of the bidding record for the auction raises some questions, too. 15 bids were made for the SRT-8, by only 5 bidders.

March 12, a single bidder made 10 bids, ranging from $22,000 to $29,000, with no competing bids in between, in a four and a half hour period. These appear to be automatic bids.

And then comes "Hitman" (or so we're told, since eBay keeps actual bidder IDs confidential by assigning an anonymous bidder name)...who makes his one and only bid of $29,100.

But unless there's a glitch with eBay time stamps, that's weird, too...because the $29,100 bid is shown as having been made at 08:54:13 PST...and the 10-bid streak described above didn't start until 11:00:25 PST...more than two hours later. Which means "Hitman" chose $29,100 as his bid when the standing high bid was $20,100.

A last-moment hail-mary to shut out the competition? Maybe. Except "Hitman"'s winning bid was more than five hours before the auction closed. And eBay says automatic bidders' maximum bids are kept confidential from other bidders.

Open up "Hitman"'s bidding history and you'll find he's no power bidder. He's been involved in exactly four eBay auctions...and the Challenger SRT-8 is the only one where he had the winning bid.

Hey, it could be that "Hitman" is just out enjoying the SRT-8...but his friends in the Challenger community are beginning to wonder if they've been had.

Post Title → Where's 'Hitman" And His Car? (Updated 12:36 PM MST)

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Challenger SRT-8 Auction Dispute Resolved: "Hitman" Gets His Car...But At What Price?

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The bidder known as "Hitman" surfaced on the ChallengerTalk Forums early Sunday morning to confirm his face-to-face meeting with Glenn E. Thomas Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep ended in a drive home in his new 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8. 

"Hitman" says the dealership "honored the $29.1K auction", but other posters to the forum say they've called the dealership and were told the deal was for $35k. Follow along yourself, starting with the page where "Hitman" makes his announcement.

(photo courtesy "Hitman" and the ChallengerTalk Forums)

Post Title → Challenger SRT-8 Auction Dispute Resolved: "Hitman" Gets His Car...But At What Price?

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Challenger SRT-8 Auction Dispute Goes Face To Face Saturday

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We've been following the story of the Southern California Dodge dealer who put a 2009 SRT-8 up on eBay, found itself with a winning bid of only $29,100 and claims a computer glitch erased their $42,995 reserve, only to have eBay say that couldn't and didn't happen.

Now, Jalopnik reports the bidder and the dealer will be sitting down to talk with each other tomorrow.

The winning bidder posts to the Challenger Talk Forums under the name "Hitman". Here's a link to the most recent page of the thread about the auction gone wrong as of post time. Hit "next" if the page count is above 115 when you get there.

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eBay Denies Problem With Challenger Auction

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The stalemate over a $29,100 winning eBay bid for a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 isn't going away soon.

This morning, we linked you over to Jalopnik, which got the dealer's side of the story...that they were lowering the "But It Now" price and through some glitch, the reserve vanished.

But now, eBay weighs in and says....um...no. Full story from the guys who are in full Woodward/Bernstein mode at Jalopnik. And you can follow the outrage on the Challenger Talk Forums.

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UPDATE: eBay Error In Challenger Auction Dispute?

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Yesterday, we told you about the dispute between the winning bidder of an eBay auction and a Southern California auto dealer over a 2009 Dodge Challenger SRT-8.

The winner says he should get the car for his winning bid of $29,100...the dealer says no way...the car's worth more than $40K.

Well, Jalopnik has uncovered the story behind the story...the part where the dealer says it actually did have a reserve of $42,995...went online to lower it...and didn't realize the reserve was deleted from the listing.

eBay's fault or the dealer's? eBay's investigating. And the Challenger Talk Forums are buzzing.

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Challenger Auction Goes Wrong: Dealer Tries To Back Out Of $29,100 Bid for SRT-8

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Glenn E. Thomas Dodge-Chrysler-Jeep in Signal Hill, California had an '09 Dodge Challenger SRT-8 it wanted to sell. 500 miles on the odometer...a demonstrator, maybe?

Anyway, they went the eBay auction route. Apparently, it was their first time at the rodeo...er, auction...because they neglected to put a reserve on it. A reserve is a minimum bid. If no bidders get that high, the car doesn't change hands.

Well, the sticker was $46,425 and the winning bid was $29,100 and Glenn E. Thomas is telling the winning bidder "no sale".

Unfortunately for Glenn E. Thomas, the winning bidder is a member of the Challenger Talk Forums and knows how to use them...meaning the story and the outrage is spreading like wildfire.

Scope out the eBay posting here (ignore the "bidding has ended" notice and just scroll down)...

Meantime, Glenn E. Thomas is running a straight sale on eBay, this one for a used 2010 Challenger RT, with an "advertised price" of $39,995. They say 984 miles...the photo shows the odometer reading 986.

Post Title → Challenger Auction Goes Wrong: Dealer Tries To Back Out Of $29,100 Bid for SRT-8

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Jalopnik's Graverobber Swings For The Bleachers

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Jalopnik has a fun regular feature, "Nice Price or Crack Pipe", in which readers debate whether a used vehicle offered for sale (usually on eBay or Craigslist) is worth the asking price.

The contributing writer usually gets a few clever lines in, but Graverobber has outdone himself with today's entry about a 1985 Dodge 600 Convertible with a price tag of $15,000.

And yes, there's a definite P.J. O'Rourke influence at work here.

Post Title → Jalopnik's Graverobber Swings For The Bleachers

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